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  1. Sionainn Henry
    2 January 2026 @ 2:44 am

    I think it’s worthwhile to note that prior to the names from X10 and the Gazetteer, it may be assumed that the original designer’s intent (Moldvay) was that all of Glantri was analogous to the Principality of Wales, having magical Merlinian Welsh culture. Since the very name “Glantri” is Welsh, and all of the associated proper names in the Akronian Known World are Welsh as well, and also given the real-world Welsh association with the title of “principalities.”

    By 1987, Bruce was two “editorial eras” removed from the Moldvay era. He did great work, but there was an unintentional shift from the 1981 implied setting of Welsh Glantri, slender though it was. The restoration of Moldvayan Welsh Glantri would basically be a different world and continuity than Heardian Mystara.

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    • Thorfinn Tait
      2 January 2026 @ 3:16 am

      As I said in the article, the primary source for Glantri before GAZ3 was basically X2. X10 then added some names for the rulers. Given this situation, it’s easy to see that Bruce Heard took those things and developed them in a logical direction. He certainly also made it his own thing, but it was Moldvay who inspired him through X2. To the extent that Ambreville is still Bruce’s online handle to this day. If there was a shift, it’s only visible to us now because of recent research (such as your own).

      Your thought experiment above is certainly very interesting, and I’d love to see more development on that idea. But your assumption is very much the product of new (old) information that was not available to Bruce or any of the other designers in 1987, isn’t it? So it’s not really relevant to this map, which is supposed to be tracking Bruce’s developments.

      I suggest you make a thread about the alternate Welsh-themed Glantri at The Piazza. It would be interesting to see what information could be assembled or extrapolated to give it some more depth.

  2. Sionainn
    2 January 2026 @ 3:57 am

    I’m not saying the Heard’s development wasn’t logical, just that this is another case where the Moldvayan and Mentzerian and Heardian worlds fundamentally split, due to editorial shifts (unintentional and intentional).

    My Welsh placename research is here:
    https://pandius.com/metymlgy.html#glantri
    https://pandius.com/metymlgy.html#llyntref
    https://pandius.com/metymlgy.html#ccdgg

    Even In Moldvay’s X2, the French Ambreville names are not necessarily indicative of the native and predominant (Welsh) culture of Glantri, since it is a licensed product (CAS Estate) plopped down into Glantri.

    Though you are documenting Bruce’s map here, this is the point where the implicitly Welsh setting was fully overwritten by the multicultural Heardian Glantri. I think it’s worth noting—that’s all.

    You’re right that I ought to fully depict the Moldvayan World of The Continent (and the Mentzerian World of Pangaea) someday.

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