Wow, talk about a busy weekend. Thank god weddings are a once in a lifetime event.

All I can say is, you've introduced me to parts of the Known World / Mystara that I did not know existed. I don't have anything other than the Gazetteers, and the X1 module. I really appreciate your efforts.

And Congratulations on your wedding.

GW

IIRC, Um-Shedu should be separated from the rest of Nimmur, since it's been retaken by the Enduks and it's used as a spearhead to cause problems to the manscorpions.... or did this happen AFTER AC 1009?? I can't remember offhand...

And again, congrats on your wedding, Thorf!
Are you still planning it or did you actually get married last week?

Thanks guys! My wedding is in fact on the 8th of May, although we will be visiting the city hall to actually get married on the 22nd of April - next Friday!

I think you're right about Um-Shedu, Marco. All the sources seem to say it was captured "recently" and "within the last decade". It looks like it was a Savage Coast setting development. So this map is correct for 1000 AC, but I'll have to change it for the later dated versions. Thanks for pointing this out, because I had never heard about it before. I guess I really need to get round to reading the Red Steel/Savage Coast stuff!

Want to know more about the Savage Coast?

You can download the Savage Coast products for free at:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads.

Just scroll down to where it says Savage Coast. Make sure you download the stuff under Mystara aswell.

Enjoy!

Håvard

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Cool, thanks for the pointer. I'll have my DSL humming tonight.

GW

It's only the city; Wouldn't a border designate that they own the whole hex?

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Not necessarily - to me it just indicates that some part of that hex is separate. (And I'm sure they "own" some land around the city, too, in the sense that they've gotta patrol it to stop people sneaking up on them.) I always figure the hex borders are rounding up.

We're approaching the end of the Dragon Savage Coast maps. Just a few more to go after this.

A little early, but I don't know if I'll have time later today, so here it is. See you next week!

So, that's the end of the Princess Ark maps. (Those of you who have been paying close attention will note that I actually have yet to do the Yavdlom map. ) The next stage will be to start enhancing them with the info provided in Red Steel.

I'll be posting two more maps tomorrow and Wednesday, and if I have time one last one on Thursday. But on Thursday my father arrives, and I'll be extremely busy with him, wedding plans (I'm making the cake myself!), etc. for the next three weeks. So I'm going to take another break from posting maps.

I hope to resume posting in mid-May, at some point after my wedding on the 8th.

One minor spelling thing: It's Suma'a and not Suma's

Apart from this: ENJOY your wedding Thorf! We'll leave here best wishes on the 8th of May for you to read when you'll log in after your honeymoon is over

I actually noticed that mistake as I posted the map on Friday, and I as wondering how long it would take for someone to notice. Marco takes the prize!

Thanks for the wedding wishes! When all is said and done, there will doubtless be some pictures on my web site for anyone interested. (Sometimes there are nice advantages in having a photographer for a father. )

By the way, the registry office bit is actually this Friday, the 22nd. ... ...

I just updated the mapping files for use with Illustrator CS on my homepage. They include all sorts of little goodies now.

You can see them at my mapping tools page.

For a while now, I've been considering implementing the palettes from the original maps in my replica
maps. In most cases, I already have scans of the originals which can be used as sources for the
palettes. It takes a bit of fiddling to do, but in general it's not that hard, and if I were to do it en masse,
I could streamline the process.

So, as a little experiment, I decided to give it a try. I think the result was rather interesting. If you
have access to the original map, please take it out and have a little compare with my map below. Screen
and print are of course inherently different, but I think you'll be surprised at the similarity nonetheless.

A while ago I realised that I was wrong about there being no 24 mile per hex Known World map between the Expert Set and Wrath of the Immortals. I had forgotten the Rules Cyclopedia map, which is an updated version of the Expert Set map.

Awesome maps Thorf! (as usual)

I thought Corran keep was on the Darokin side, but I guess I was misremembering....

I didn't realize the Isle of Dredd was this far west. Something I would like to see is a map covering both sides of the straight between the KW and the IoD. I think it would make sense if this sea functions like a Mystaran Mediterrean Sea. I always wanted a map showing that. If it could go as far south as to cover the eastern Thanegioth and Ochaela aswell that would be cool. Anyways, thats for later I suppose as I'm guessing you have more maps in store for us as part of your project....

Håvard

That's a map I'd like to see too. In 24 mile per hex, it's not especially hard to make, and will be coming in the relatively near future I hope. 8 mile per hex will take a bit longer...

If you've got good bandwidth and quite a bit of RAM (to open an image this size), there's an image that Thibault made of most of Mystara at 24 miles per hex. It's one of the controversial ones that fills NW Brun, and extends the size of Hule, but it's still a neat map. You could probably look at that for the straight until Thorf makes something similar.
(not attached as an image since it's 2.9 GB)
http://www.mystara.addr.com/maps/mystara/mystara_24m.png

I thought this would be appropriate to end my second run of maps. Tomorrow will be the combined version
of Iciria!

It looks like I might not have time to post this tomorrow, so here it is early!

It actually took quite a lot of fiddling to join up the two Hollow World maps. A couple of rivers were off, but it was clear which version was more correct in both cases. The major problem came with the Merry Pirate Seas and the Traldar Kingdoms, though.

I had never noticed just from looking at the maps, but that whole region is quite different on each map. The coastline is different, and even the positioning of some towns is different. It's all a bit of a headache.

In the end, I took the map from the first Poor Wizard's Almanac and used it to solve the issue, retracing the coastline from it. The result is somewhat of a compromise between the two maps, although it seems the southern map was always more accurate.

The next step for this map, in the long run, is to overlay it with the Hollow World world map and use it to fill in the missing parts of Iciria, and of course the rest of the continents too. First attempts at lining up the two maps have proved a little difficult, which might indicate that the hex map and the world map are not fully accurate. For now it's too early to tell for sure, though.

So, this brings my second batch of maps to an end. If all goes well, I will start posting maps again in the middle of May. Please keep your fingers crossed!

Thanks for sticking with me this far.

Thorf, I'm having some trouble with your files. I downloaded both versions over the weekend, and just now downloaded your updated version for CS. In CS the only files that work OK are the templates (prev. one was green hexes, new one is blank hexes). The other files open, but nothing shows after opening them! I was able to open your 8.0 file in CS and use those hexes, but I'm eager to see all the goodies for CS!

Has anyone else had issues with this?

Anyone have any idea what might be causing this?

Any help would be much appreciated!

Dan

And what a grand ending! Iciria!

Well, best wishes!

GP

Have a great couple of weeks, Thorf.

Best wishes for this Friday and May 8th!

I think I know what you're doing wrong. The files for symbols, swatches, patterns, and so on - everything other than the template file - need to be loaded up from their appropriate control panel. For example, to load the symbols, click on the symbol palette, then on the menu arrow at the top right of that panel. At the bottom is a "Load symbol palette..." command, which you can use to bring up extra symbol palettes. You can then make that palette persistent, or just add all of the symbols to your document's main symbol palette.

In other words, those extra files are not in fact full Illustrator files at all. All they contain is the palettes, which is why they appear blank.

Your feedback answers a question I was wondering about, which is how well my template transfers to other computers. It seems that a better idea would be to simply add all the symbols to the template's symbol palette, rather than storing them in different files. However, doing that makes choosing symbols very clumsy.

I hope that helps you to get things working!

Thanks for all the great maps and best wishes for tomorrow!

:-) Jesper